From Ellie, Jerri, Debbie............
Ellie, this is an outstanding letter. I have been thinking about the thing God hates, the one first on the list PRIDE. PRIDE rebels against humility. And we yield to one or the other all the time. You had to humble yourself to write this, so did your Mom and Debbie. Humility is the GLUE THAT GLUES THE BODY OF CHRIST TOGETHER. Pride is the Acetone that destroys, it's the main ingredient to the kingdom that FALLS and does not stand. It's why so many are desperate and on drugs in the church, because there are not enough open, honest, sincere, humble, truthful people THAT CAN GROW TOGETHER because they speak the truth in love.
If we would all PREACH WISDOM, open up our foolishness and the light of the glorious gospel we get about our foolishness UNDERSTANDING WOULD KEEP TALKING TO US.
I know being busy, lack of meetings separate us, but these letters, women being open ARE SO POWERFUL, THEY ARE LIFE, HEALTH, HELP. AND UNDERSTANDING CAN KEEP TALKING TO US WHEN WE AREN'T PRIDEFUL.
I have to say I'M THRILLED THAT YOUR MOM HAS DECIDED TO PUT OFF PRIDE RATHER THAN PUTTING US OFF. She has always lived with the false walls of pride protecting her.... NOT.......... not protecting her. A MIGHTY FORTRESS WAS HER PRIDE.... and I think she is seeing how it's kept her from being who she needs to be TO JESUS AND HIS PEOPLE......GLORY HALLELUJAH!!!!
I'm going to buy that children's book THE EMPEROR WITH NO CLOTHES ON. I think someone had a grip on the religious spirit when they wrote that one!
Hi Ceci,
I just wanted to share somethings that I was talking to one I love about. I was telling her that she needs to start speaking to her farmilar spirit's and start rebuking them and to stop living as the victum and start taking responsibility for what she has sown into her marriage and family. I Got off the phone I started thinking about Linda's advice to me when i see what I have done wrong or the spirit that I allowed to oporate in me, she said repent and ask the Lord to forgive you. I called one I love back and left a message that she should repent and ask for forgiveness when the Lord bring to rememberance that things she has done or the spirit she has allowed to rule in her. After I got off the phone with her I started reading in acts and got a powerful scripture Acts 3:19 Repent ye therfore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
I was just so thankful that the Lord would bring to rememberance that words Linda willingly to give me and then lead me to this scripture!!
I was just thinking to look up the verse in the aramaic...Repent, therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out when the times of tranquillity shall come to you from before the presence of the Lord.
I looked up tranquil: free form agitations of mind or spirit, free from disturbance or turmil.
After reading this in the aramaic, does the second part of the scripture mean that the tranquillity and refreshing will happen as soon as we repent or when we stand before the Lord in heaven? BOTH
Thanks Ceci for your time and love!!!! love you Ellie
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This is really good. Thank you for forwarding it. My silence has cause people to disappear as well. It's strange that I HAVEN'T see that and have been deceived into thinking that I could be satisfied by doing things my own way, walking in the light of my own sparks. I THINK I KNOW. I have been duped and indifferent to life in general. I am so sorry and ashamed that I've been a death trap to my kids and my family. NO MORE, I want to be right with Jesus and man. Thank GOD for this ministry and the light you have chosen to walk in and thank you too!!:) Please forgive me for putting you through it.
I am REALLY thankful to Pat, Alice and Carmie as well for their faithfulness and long suffering where I am concerned. That they would go there even knowing the wrath they would incur by talking to me. OH I'm sorry. I pray for true repentance and brokenness--not just saying I'm sorry to get away from the pressure. A humble and contrite spirit is what I need. Come Lord Jesus!!!!
Love,
Jerrie
Hi Ben
You have probably read what I wrote to Ceci in my e-mail, but I just wanted to write to you personally to let you know that I am sorry to you for what happened in Kona. As I am to all of the boys that were there. I could have played my part in changing things had I gotten people involved. If I had to do it over again, I would certainly do it differently. There were so many things that I passed over because I wanted Mikes' approval.
Kona was a test for all of us adults. We were all looking to meet our own needs our own way, and unfortuntely when adults do that they cause the young people in thier lives to be neglected and have sorrows that they wouldn't have if the adults cared more about pleasing God than themselves.
So, Please do not blame Gene, Ceci or Joe, or anyone else for what happened. They did not turn a blind eye. They just truly did not know what was going on. I wish SO much that I would have told them. But, to tell them would have meant me exposing my lust for Mikes' approval and I didn't want exposed.
In fact, that is the reason that none of us adults talked. We all had a demon that we were protecting. I know that had Gene and Ceci known all of the things that went on they would have been confronted, and things would have been different with everyone.
One comfort that I can give to you is that I know, that I know, that I know, that God will be faithful to those that were hurt....including your mom. Some how He will let them know that He is faithful and that it is man and woman that is unfaithful and limits His ability to expose some and bless others.
In fact, though Kona was hard on you and never should have happened the way it did, it can turn around for good. You now what it is like when adults are into thier own thing now. You can be thankful even, because it will all make you a better parent. Maybe had you not gone through it you would not know what kind of parent NOT to be.
Anyway, Ben, I love you and I just wanted to tell you that I am sincerely sorry for not getting Gene and Ceci involved, and I hope that this little note helps you understand some of the injustice that happened in Kona. I pray Gods' blessing on you and your little family. My love to you, Debbie
Our husbands are worthy of our
love and sowing anything else is tearing down our houses. YES PRVB. 22 TALKS ABOUT THAT WOMAN TOO,SHE'S A PIT A TRAP A SNARE FOR OTHERS TO FALL IN! This is such a revelation--I didn't lead my kids into the ditch--I was the ditch. I am so blessed to be here. To have the light and see the truth. OH GOD--Thank you. THAT IS WHO EVERY WOMAN IS WITHOUT JESUS!!!!
This is all so good. We are so blessed to continually be receiving
instruction on loving our husbands and children. I really was moved by the
Arthur Blessitt movie and realized that I need to live in the here and now
with my children, not waiting for them to grow up and not make so many
messes:), but be thankful today and do my ministry with my whole heart today.
And they are my ministry. Nathan and my girls. They are who are right in
front of me. And I have believed the lie that it is too hard to love and lay
down my life. I don't want my kids to grow up believing that lie. I want
them to see the blessing of loving and serving, so I must die to the selfish, worldly woman. Thank God that His mercies are new every morning and when we lack wisdom, we can ask and He will give it!!!!!If we really want it.
Amen and Amen!!!!
We are AMBASSADORS ALWAYS OF ONE KINGDOM OR THE OTHER, AND THEIR IS NO FENCE to sit on. We are loosing one govt. or the other AT ALL TIMES IN ALL PLACES, and realizing HOW MUCH POWER WE HAVE TO DO GOOD OR EVIL, and THERE IS NOTHING HIDDEN THAT WILL NOT BE REVEALED...... one day it will all clear WHO LOVED JESUS......... and DID HIS WILL, AND AT LEAST TRIED AND WANTED TO, AND CARED........ It's true nothing can be done against love I praise and thank Jesus for the life that is here and the life that is shared in our house. This is a great letter. Thank you :)
Saturday, January 23, 2010
mean to your children or Gods?????
Ellie,
So glad you are getting revelation. One thing I wish I would have added was "the law of kindness was IN HER MOUTH."
I think as parents it is so easy to be condemning in our hearts towards our children for what we are guilty of. And we could get so much revelation out of how we are to the Lord, by watching how they are towards us.
I was even talking with your Mom about how there is no Kingdom (Government) without obeyers. And as the Grandparents we should be able to hear and obey.
WOW Ceci this is a great word! Thank you for sharing! I was just thinking the other day about Ayanna and wanting her to be a sister who will want to cover and care for her younger siblings and i was thinking about all the attitudes i have toward tommy, and the LORD starting talking to me about the spirit's that i am passing on to my daughter. I started seeing that if i don't judge how i treat tommy i won't have children that love eachother or care to treat eachother with love. I was really thankful that the LORD would show me this! love ellie
Those little attitudes you cop with your children are coming from thoughts inspired by the master himself, the master of lies...... Satan. He is on a mission to get your children to kill you, each other, or themselves. AND IT HAS WORKED ALL OVER OUR COUNTRY, EVERY DAY, OF EVERY YEAR. Spirits are real and they are on a mission to get you to look down on your children, lightly esteem them, see them as YOUR PROBLEM. They have an expected end for your children.............
Well, the devil is real and despair comes from him, he is the king of it. He's on a mission, and the song of his heart is despair and commit suicide, or despair and commit murder.
One of my friends came over today and I was telling her about a conversation with another friend..... about "the music in our heart." The Lord says, HE PUT A NEW SONG IN MY HEART EVEN PRAISE TO MY GOD. Most people are secretly walking around "singing" the devils song at his will. "It's too hard to love, it's too hard to wash feet, it's to hard to take grave clothes off. It's too hard to lay my life down for my children. My husband is too hard to love."
When my son Dan, and my daughter Rebekah were babies and I was folding a mountain of diapers one night..... singing "it's too hard. life is too hard, the Lord's given me more than I can handle" secretly in my thoughts...... I was right where the devil wanted me. Right where he had carved my conscience through my mother to be. I looked up on the wall and saw a plaque ironically my mother gave to me...... ( I think she was doing what she could to get me to stop singing the devils song the best she knew how, but I got some revelation about that too.) The plaque said THE LORD HAS NOT GIVEN YOU MORE THAN YOU CAN HANDLE. I laughed, mocked, even thought with the help of imps...... that's a joke, that's not true, the LORD DOES GIVE US MORE THAN WE CAN HANDLE. I never even saw at that time, I was right where the imps of hell wanted me, right where I had been ALL MY LIFE.
How does a 10 year old feel like killing herself? How does a 13 Year old run away from home to another state for a MONTH. And how does a young girl of 14 leave home for GOOD?
I was thinking of all the silent and not so silent demonic communication between my mother and I today. Ps. 45 says, "don't make obedience to the spirit of your father's house." "The Kings daughter is all glorious within."
WHEN YOUR OWN MOTHER DESPAIRS OVER YOU, DOESN'T TURN TO JESUS, it carves and did carve my conscience with one LOUD SILENT MESSAGE, LIE FROM THE FATHER OF LIES. And that lie is YOU ARE MAKING MY LIFE HARD.
That was the song of my mother's heart towards me. I WAS AN INCONVENIENCE TO HER. I was TOO HARD for her to lay down her life for. NOW THIS WAS UNSPOKEN for the most part, but let loose by ATTITUDES she carried towards me. LIKE BEING MEAN, disrespectful, OFFENDED, curt, she LIGHTLY ESTEEMED ME, I WAS HER PROBLEM THAT WAS TOO HARD FOR EVEN JESUS TO SOLVE........ and she was going to church, SHE JUST WASN'T LOOKING TO JESUS.
OH MY GOSH, how many couples are being duped by imps to think their problems with their spouse is just more than they can handle.............. LOOK FOR THE TRUTH TO SET YOU FREE from singing the wrong song!!!!!! Hunt for it like GOLD!!!!
So I wrote a letter, saying "I AM LEAVING SO YOUR LIFE WILL BE EASIER"........ and went to another house, stayed with strangers, and winged life on my own. So my mother wouldn't have to feel sorry for herself anymore having to deal with my problems!!!! These were demons that had been trying to convince me to kill myself since I was very young. My mother interacted with my like I was her problem too big to handle. AND I BELIEVED IT TOO........ She secretly felt sorry for herself BECAUSE OF ME, SO I DID TOO.......... FELT SORRY FOR HER HAVING THE BURDEN OF ME, the child.
SPIRITS ARE REAL. I have come way beyond this now, it's even hard for me TO REMEMBER. Because I HAVE RECEIVED THE ENGRAFTED WORD THAT HAS SAVED MY SOUL FROM THE DEMONS CARVING MY CONSCIENCE THROUGH THE ADULTS that were just the devils' puppets with no idea what they were doing.
BE CAREFUL HOW YOU TREAT THE LITTLE ONES, their Angel's are looking down from heaving taking notes!!! AS YOU HAVE DONE IT UNTO THE LEAST OF THESE MY SERVANTS, SO HAVE YOU DONE IT UNTO ME.......... THIS IS THE ENGRAFTED WORD THAT KEPT ME FROM BEING A MEAN MOM, SEEING MY CHILDREN AS A BURDEN I COULDN'T BEAR. I wanted to PROVE I LOVED JESUS BY LOVING THEM, they were worthy of my love. It was the least I could do to lay down my life for them seeing how MY SAVIOUR LAID DOWN HIS LIFE FOR ME......... I wanted to get answers for their problems not curse them for their problems because they were inconveniencing me.
Oh change the way you think before it's too late. Receive the engrafted word that can save your soul AND YOUR CHILDREN'S SOUL!!! You only have a few short years to show them HOW PRECIOUS THEY ARE........ TO GOD THE FATHER, and YOU!!!
Don't sing the songs your parents sang.......... don't impart the spirits your parents imparted!!!!! Let God put the right song into your heart for your children........ HOW MANY PARENTS HAVE FOUND THEIR CHILDREN DEAD DUE TO SUICIDE WITH NO CLUE HOW THE DEVIL DUPED THEM INTO PLAYING RIGHT INTO HIS HANDS...........
THOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL THY HEART, MIND AND SOUL, AND LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, children, whoever..... as THYSELF. This is the ROYAL COMMANDMENT and in THIS IS ALL THE LAW OF CHRIST FULFILLED!!!
So glad you are getting revelation. One thing I wish I would have added was "the law of kindness was IN HER MOUTH."
I think as parents it is so easy to be condemning in our hearts towards our children for what we are guilty of. And we could get so much revelation out of how we are to the Lord, by watching how they are towards us.
I was even talking with your Mom about how there is no Kingdom (Government) without obeyers. And as the Grandparents we should be able to hear and obey.
WOW Ceci this is a great word! Thank you for sharing! I was just thinking the other day about Ayanna and wanting her to be a sister who will want to cover and care for her younger siblings and i was thinking about all the attitudes i have toward tommy, and the LORD starting talking to me about the spirit's that i am passing on to my daughter. I started seeing that if i don't judge how i treat tommy i won't have children that love eachother or care to treat eachother with love. I was really thankful that the LORD would show me this! love ellie
Those little attitudes you cop with your children are coming from thoughts inspired by the master himself, the master of lies...... Satan. He is on a mission to get your children to kill you, each other, or themselves. AND IT HAS WORKED ALL OVER OUR COUNTRY, EVERY DAY, OF EVERY YEAR. Spirits are real and they are on a mission to get you to look down on your children, lightly esteem them, see them as YOUR PROBLEM. They have an expected end for your children.............
Well, the devil is real and despair comes from him, he is the king of it. He's on a mission, and the song of his heart is despair and commit suicide, or despair and commit murder.
One of my friends came over today and I was telling her about a conversation with another friend..... about "the music in our heart." The Lord says, HE PUT A NEW SONG IN MY HEART EVEN PRAISE TO MY GOD. Most people are secretly walking around "singing" the devils song at his will. "It's too hard to love, it's too hard to wash feet, it's to hard to take grave clothes off. It's too hard to lay my life down for my children. My husband is too hard to love."
When my son Dan, and my daughter Rebekah were babies and I was folding a mountain of diapers one night..... singing "it's too hard. life is too hard, the Lord's given me more than I can handle" secretly in my thoughts...... I was right where the devil wanted me. Right where he had carved my conscience through my mother to be. I looked up on the wall and saw a plaque ironically my mother gave to me...... ( I think she was doing what she could to get me to stop singing the devils song the best she knew how, but I got some revelation about that too.) The plaque said THE LORD HAS NOT GIVEN YOU MORE THAN YOU CAN HANDLE. I laughed, mocked, even thought with the help of imps...... that's a joke, that's not true, the LORD DOES GIVE US MORE THAN WE CAN HANDLE. I never even saw at that time, I was right where the imps of hell wanted me, right where I had been ALL MY LIFE.
How does a 10 year old feel like killing herself? How does a 13 Year old run away from home to another state for a MONTH. And how does a young girl of 14 leave home for GOOD?
I was thinking of all the silent and not so silent demonic communication between my mother and I today. Ps. 45 says, "don't make obedience to the spirit of your father's house." "The Kings daughter is all glorious within."
WHEN YOUR OWN MOTHER DESPAIRS OVER YOU, DOESN'T TURN TO JESUS, it carves and did carve my conscience with one LOUD SILENT MESSAGE, LIE FROM THE FATHER OF LIES. And that lie is YOU ARE MAKING MY LIFE HARD.
That was the song of my mother's heart towards me. I WAS AN INCONVENIENCE TO HER. I was TOO HARD for her to lay down her life for. NOW THIS WAS UNSPOKEN for the most part, but let loose by ATTITUDES she carried towards me. LIKE BEING MEAN, disrespectful, OFFENDED, curt, she LIGHTLY ESTEEMED ME, I WAS HER PROBLEM THAT WAS TOO HARD FOR EVEN JESUS TO SOLVE........ and she was going to church, SHE JUST WASN'T LOOKING TO JESUS.
OH MY GOSH, how many couples are being duped by imps to think their problems with their spouse is just more than they can handle.............. LOOK FOR THE TRUTH TO SET YOU FREE from singing the wrong song!!!!!! Hunt for it like GOLD!!!!
So I wrote a letter, saying "I AM LEAVING SO YOUR LIFE WILL BE EASIER"........ and went to another house, stayed with strangers, and winged life on my own. So my mother wouldn't have to feel sorry for herself anymore having to deal with my problems!!!! These were demons that had been trying to convince me to kill myself since I was very young. My mother interacted with my like I was her problem too big to handle. AND I BELIEVED IT TOO........ She secretly felt sorry for herself BECAUSE OF ME, SO I DID TOO.......... FELT SORRY FOR HER HAVING THE BURDEN OF ME, the child.
SPIRITS ARE REAL. I have come way beyond this now, it's even hard for me TO REMEMBER. Because I HAVE RECEIVED THE ENGRAFTED WORD THAT HAS SAVED MY SOUL FROM THE DEMONS CARVING MY CONSCIENCE THROUGH THE ADULTS that were just the devils' puppets with no idea what they were doing.
BE CAREFUL HOW YOU TREAT THE LITTLE ONES, their Angel's are looking down from heaving taking notes!!! AS YOU HAVE DONE IT UNTO THE LEAST OF THESE MY SERVANTS, SO HAVE YOU DONE IT UNTO ME.......... THIS IS THE ENGRAFTED WORD THAT KEPT ME FROM BEING A MEAN MOM, SEEING MY CHILDREN AS A BURDEN I COULDN'T BEAR. I wanted to PROVE I LOVED JESUS BY LOVING THEM, they were worthy of my love. It was the least I could do to lay down my life for them seeing how MY SAVIOUR LAID DOWN HIS LIFE FOR ME......... I wanted to get answers for their problems not curse them for their problems because they were inconveniencing me.
Oh change the way you think before it's too late. Receive the engrafted word that can save your soul AND YOUR CHILDREN'S SOUL!!! You only have a few short years to show them HOW PRECIOUS THEY ARE........ TO GOD THE FATHER, and YOU!!!
Don't sing the songs your parents sang.......... don't impart the spirits your parents imparted!!!!! Let God put the right song into your heart for your children........ HOW MANY PARENTS HAVE FOUND THEIR CHILDREN DEAD DUE TO SUICIDE WITH NO CLUE HOW THE DEVIL DUPED THEM INTO PLAYING RIGHT INTO HIS HANDS...........
THOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL THY HEART, MIND AND SOUL, AND LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, children, whoever..... as THYSELF. This is the ROYAL COMMANDMENT and in THIS IS ALL THE LAW OF CHRIST FULFILLED!!!
proverbs 22
17Listen (consent and submit) to the words of the wise, and apply your mind to my knowledge;
18For it will be pleasant if you keep them in your mind [believing them]; your lips will be accustomed to [confessing] them.
19So that your trust (belief, reliance, support, and confidence) may be in the Lord, I have made known these things to you today, even to you.
20Have I not written to you [long ago] excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
21To make you know the certainty of the words of truth, that you may give a true answer to those who sent you?(D)
It's really amazing to me how the word of God all fits together............. In God's Divine wisdom he even mapped out how it's all put together!
12The eyes of the Lord keep guard over knowledge and him who has it, but He overthrows the words of the treacherous. (not only do people who love the Lord not fall into the ditch of the deep pit of sluggardly fearful women, women of God overthrow the deep ditch of the loose woman)
13The sluggard says, There is a lion outside! I shall be slain in the streets! (when we say we are fearful we might as well admit we are slothful, they are one in the same. Because if we took the time to hear the words of the one who loves us we would not be afraid) Perfect love casts out fear, and when we abide in the vine of God it puts to flight fear.
14The mouth of a loose woman is a deep pit [for ensnaring wild animals]; he with whom the Lord is indignant and who is abhorrent to Him will fall into it. (that's who controlling Jezebel is, that's the spirit of fear........ to control others to save us because we don't want salvation that comes from the Lord)
15Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him. (So correction and reproof are a way of life and we need to look to God all the time so we stay on the right path)
18For it will be pleasant if you keep them in your mind [believing them]; your lips will be accustomed to [confessing] them.
19So that your trust (belief, reliance, support, and confidence) may be in the Lord, I have made known these things to you today, even to you.
20Have I not written to you [long ago] excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
21To make you know the certainty of the words of truth, that you may give a true answer to those who sent you?(D)
It's really amazing to me how the word of God all fits together............. In God's Divine wisdom he even mapped out how it's all put together!
12The eyes of the Lord keep guard over knowledge and him who has it, but He overthrows the words of the treacherous. (not only do people who love the Lord not fall into the ditch of the deep pit of sluggardly fearful women, women of God overthrow the deep ditch of the loose woman)
13The sluggard says, There is a lion outside! I shall be slain in the streets! (when we say we are fearful we might as well admit we are slothful, they are one in the same. Because if we took the time to hear the words of the one who loves us we would not be afraid) Perfect love casts out fear, and when we abide in the vine of God it puts to flight fear.
14The mouth of a loose woman is a deep pit [for ensnaring wild animals]; he with whom the Lord is indignant and who is abhorrent to Him will fall into it. (that's who controlling Jezebel is, that's the spirit of fear........ to control others to save us because we don't want salvation that comes from the Lord)
15Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him. (So correction and reproof are a way of life and we need to look to God all the time so we stay on the right path)
FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT, Lynette, Jerri
Lynette, we have all been liars, man pleaser's (which is really self pleasure). Then we go gang-ho to tell the truth, but it's not because we love, it's not because we are humble, loving, kind, tenderhearted.) It is like being coached in a sport. At first we don't want to play, we aren't good we try and make a bunch of mistakes. But when we learn the sport, get free, have faith, and confidence in the coach, we can play the sport.....
It is like boxers, we can beat the air and get no where, or we can have a relationship with the coach and get the PUNCH that deals the BLOW from God. HOW SINCERE is our love when we tell others the truth?????? THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT to be honest with ourselves about. That was the thing that stuck out to me about Gene's stories. In all of them he prays, hears from God, then delivers the blow that breaks the yoke!!!! THAT'S WHEN LIFE IS AWESOME, AND GOD IS POWERFUL, and we have to abide in the right vine for the truth to do it's REAL WORK!!!!
I
realize for myself and with Kolbe that we really do what we want, and if we
want to see we will and if we want to know the truth we will search it out.
"everyone who is of the truth will hear my voice," Jesus said. So when we
aren't hearing from Him, who are we of? I was thinking about Prov 19:11 The
discretion of a man deferreth his anger and it is his glory to pass over a
transgression. God gets the glory when we are willing to pass over being
offended by our husbands transgressions and choose to sacrifice our emotions and feelings and look to love him. He that covereth a transgression seeketh love but he that repeateth a matter seperates very friends. I am convicted myself at the times I have uncovered Nathan's weaknesses and not looked to cover and love. We really are destroying our own flesh and tearing down our house.
Jerrie sent over a note about loving the praise of men more than God, it's a great revelation. Then as we mature, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT SCENT.... Love, Faith, hope....... I know sometimes some of the women get offended with my openness. BUT WE ARE IN THE BATTLE TOGETHER, WE ARE HELPING EACH OTHER INTO HEAVEN with DROPPING OUR PRIDE AND BEING OPEN WITH OUR REVELATIONS. We need each other so much more than we realize. We need each others dung to learn from..... THAT'S WHAT DOES NOT GO ON IN MOST CHURCHES. PEOPLE HIDING THEMSELVES FROM THEIR OWN FLESH. I LOVE YOU ALL, I WANT YOU ALL TO GO TO HEAVEN, TO BE WISE WOMEN, AND THE MORE OPEN WE ARE, THE MORE WE CAN ALL LEARN AND BE WISE!!!!! Who of us have not been the foolish woman, who's heart is a band, snare and trap!!!! We have nothing to loose but pride AND EVERYTHING TO GAIN. To conquer the whiles of the devil against our soul TOGETHER!!!!
I was reading the proverbs yesterday and remembered when the Lord gave me
Prov. 21;9 and 10 about being the brawling woman, (faultfinding and
contentious) that seeketh only evil and can find no good in my husband. That
in itself is so destructive to our marriages. Our husbands are worthy of our
love and sowing anything else is tearing down our houses. YES PRVB. 22 TALKS ABOUT THAT WOMAN TOO, SHE'S A PIT A TRAP A SNARE FOR OTHERS TO FALL IN! THAT IS WHO EVERY WOMAN IS WITHOUT JESUS!!!!
This is all so good. We are so blessed to continually be receiving
instruction on loving our husbands and children. I really was moved by the
Arthur Blessitt movie and realized that I need to live in the here and now
with my children, not waiting for them to grow up and not make so many
messes:), but be thankful today and do my ministry with my whole heart today.
And they are my ministry. Nathan and my girls. They are who are right in
front of me. And I have believed the lie that it is too hard to love and lay
down my life. I don't want my kids to grow up believing that lie. I want
them to see the blessing of loving and serving, so I must die to the selfish, worldly woman. Thank God that His mercies are new every morning and when we lack wisdom, we can ask and He will give it!!!!!If we really want it.
We are AMBASSADORS ALWAYS OF ONE KINGDOM OR THE OTHER, AND THEIR IS NO FENCE to sit on. We are loosing one govt. or the other AT ALL TIMES IN ALL PLACES, and realizing HOW MUCH POWER WE HAVE TO DO GOOD OR EVIL, and THERE IS NOTHING HIDDEN THAT WILL NOT BE REVEALED...... one day it will all clear WHO LOVED JESUS......... and DID HIS WILL, AND AT LEAST TRIED AND WANTED TO, AND CARED........
It is like boxers, we can beat the air and get no where, or we can have a relationship with the coach and get the PUNCH that deals the BLOW from God. HOW SINCERE is our love when we tell others the truth?????? THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT to be honest with ourselves about. That was the thing that stuck out to me about Gene's stories. In all of them he prays, hears from God, then delivers the blow that breaks the yoke!!!! THAT'S WHEN LIFE IS AWESOME, AND GOD IS POWERFUL, and we have to abide in the right vine for the truth to do it's REAL WORK!!!!
I
realize for myself and with Kolbe that we really do what we want, and if we
want to see we will and if we want to know the truth we will search it out.
"everyone who is of the truth will hear my voice," Jesus said. So when we
aren't hearing from Him, who are we of? I was thinking about Prov 19:11 The
discretion of a man deferreth his anger and it is his glory to pass over a
transgression. God gets the glory when we are willing to pass over being
offended by our husbands transgressions and choose to sacrifice our emotions and feelings and look to love him. He that covereth a transgression seeketh love but he that repeateth a matter seperates very friends. I am convicted myself at the times I have uncovered Nathan's weaknesses and not looked to cover and love. We really are destroying our own flesh and tearing down our house.
Jerrie sent over a note about loving the praise of men more than God, it's a great revelation. Then as we mature, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT SCENT.... Love, Faith, hope....... I know sometimes some of the women get offended with my openness. BUT WE ARE IN THE BATTLE TOGETHER, WE ARE HELPING EACH OTHER INTO HEAVEN with DROPPING OUR PRIDE AND BEING OPEN WITH OUR REVELATIONS. We need each other so much more than we realize. We need each others dung to learn from..... THAT'S WHAT DOES NOT GO ON IN MOST CHURCHES. PEOPLE HIDING THEMSELVES FROM THEIR OWN FLESH. I LOVE YOU ALL, I WANT YOU ALL TO GO TO HEAVEN, TO BE WISE WOMEN, AND THE MORE OPEN WE ARE, THE MORE WE CAN ALL LEARN AND BE WISE!!!!! Who of us have not been the foolish woman, who's heart is a band, snare and trap!!!! We have nothing to loose but pride AND EVERYTHING TO GAIN. To conquer the whiles of the devil against our soul TOGETHER!!!!
I was reading the proverbs yesterday and remembered when the Lord gave me
Prov. 21;9 and 10 about being the brawling woman, (faultfinding and
contentious) that seeketh only evil and can find no good in my husband. That
in itself is so destructive to our marriages. Our husbands are worthy of our
love and sowing anything else is tearing down our houses. YES PRVB. 22 TALKS ABOUT THAT WOMAN TOO, SHE'S A PIT A TRAP A SNARE FOR OTHERS TO FALL IN! THAT IS WHO EVERY WOMAN IS WITHOUT JESUS!!!!
This is all so good. We are so blessed to continually be receiving
instruction on loving our husbands and children. I really was moved by the
Arthur Blessitt movie and realized that I need to live in the here and now
with my children, not waiting for them to grow up and not make so many
messes:), but be thankful today and do my ministry with my whole heart today.
And they are my ministry. Nathan and my girls. They are who are right in
front of me. And I have believed the lie that it is too hard to love and lay
down my life. I don't want my kids to grow up believing that lie. I want
them to see the blessing of loving and serving, so I must die to the selfish, worldly woman. Thank God that His mercies are new every morning and when we lack wisdom, we can ask and He will give it!!!!!If we really want it.
We are AMBASSADORS ALWAYS OF ONE KINGDOM OR THE OTHER, AND THEIR IS NO FENCE to sit on. We are loosing one govt. or the other AT ALL TIMES IN ALL PLACES, and realizing HOW MUCH POWER WE HAVE TO DO GOOD OR EVIL, and THERE IS NOTHING HIDDEN THAT WILL NOT BE REVEALED...... one day it will all clear WHO LOVED JESUS......... and DID HIS WILL, AND AT LEAST TRIED AND WANTED TO, AND CARED........
GREAT LETTERS FROM ELLIE AND JERRI
From Ellie, Jerri, Debbie............
Ellie, this is an outstanding letter. I have been thinking about the thing God hates, the one first on the list PRIDE. PRIDE rebels against humility. And we yield to one or the other all the time. You had to humble yourself to write this, so did your Mom and Debbie. Humility is the GLUE THAT GLUES THE BODY OF CHRIST TOGETHER. Pride is the Acetone that destroys, it's the main ingredient to the kingdom that FALLS and does not stand. It's why so many are desperate and on drugs in the church, because there are not enough open, honest, sincere, humble, truthful people THAT CAN GROW TOGETHER because they speak the truth in love.
If we would all PREACH WISDOM, open up our foolishness and the light of the glorious gospel we get about our foolishness UNDERSTANDING WOULD KEEP TALKING TO US.
I know being busy, lack of meetings separate us, but these letters, women being open ARE SO POWERFUL, THEY ARE LIFE, HEALTH, HELP. AND UNDERSTANDING CAN KEEP TALKING TO US WHEN WE AREN'T PRIDEFUL.
I have to say I'M THRILLED THAT YOUR MOM HAS DECIDED TO PUT OFF PRIDE RATHER THAN PUTTING US OFF. She has always lived with the false walls of pride protecting her.... NOT.......... not protecting her. A MIGHTY FORTRESS WAS HER PRIDE.... and I think she is seeing how it's kept her from being who she needs to be TO JESUS AND HIS PEOPLE......GLORY HALLELUJAH!!!!
I'm going to buy that children's book THE EMPEROR WITH NO CLOTHES ON. I think someone had a grip on the religious spirit when they wrote that one!
Hi Ceci,
I just wanted to share somethings that I was talking to one I love about. I was telling her that she needs to start speaking to her farmilar spirit's and start rebuking them and to stop living as the victum and start taking responsibility for what she has sown into her marriage and family. I Got off the phone I started thinking about Linda's advice to me when i see what I have done wrong or the spirit that I allowed to oporate in me, she said repent and ask the Lord to forgive you. I called one I love back and left a message that she should repent and ask for forgiveness when the Lord bring to rememberance that things she has done or the spirit she has allowed to rule in her. After I got off the phone with her I started reading in acts and got a powerful scripture Acts 3:19 Repent ye therfore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
I was just so thankful that the Lord would bring to rememberance that words Linda willingly to give me and then lead me to this scripture!!
I was just thinking to look up the verse in the aramaic...Repent, therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out when the times of tranquillity shall come to you from before the presence of the Lord.
I looked up tranquil: free form agitations of mind or spirit, free from disturbance or turmil.
After reading this in the aramaic, does the second part of the scripture mean that the tranquillity and refreshing will happen as soon as we repent or when we stand before the Lord in heaven? BOTH
Thanks Ceci for your time and love!!!! love you Ellie
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This is really good. Thank you for forwarding it. My silence has cause people to disappear as well. It's strange that I HAVEN'T see that and have been deceived into thinking that I could be satisfied by doing things my own way, walking in the light of my own sparks. I THINK I KNOW. I have been duped and indifferent to life in general. I am so sorry and ashamed that I've been a death trap to my kids and my family. NO MORE, I want to be right with Jesus and man. Thank GOD for this ministry and the light you have chosen to walk in and thank you too!!:) Please forgive me for putting you through it.
I am REALLY thankful to Pat, Alice and Carmie as well for their faithfulness and long suffering where I am concerned. That they would go there even knowing the wrath they would incur by talking to me. OH I'm sorry. I pray for true repentance and brokenness--not just saying I'm sorry to get away from the pressure. A humble and contrite spirit is what I need. Come Lord Jesus!!!!
Love,
Jerrie
Ellie, this is an outstanding letter. I have been thinking about the thing God hates, the one first on the list PRIDE. PRIDE rebels against humility. And we yield to one or the other all the time. You had to humble yourself to write this, so did your Mom and Debbie. Humility is the GLUE THAT GLUES THE BODY OF CHRIST TOGETHER. Pride is the Acetone that destroys, it's the main ingredient to the kingdom that FALLS and does not stand. It's why so many are desperate and on drugs in the church, because there are not enough open, honest, sincere, humble, truthful people THAT CAN GROW TOGETHER because they speak the truth in love.
If we would all PREACH WISDOM, open up our foolishness and the light of the glorious gospel we get about our foolishness UNDERSTANDING WOULD KEEP TALKING TO US.
I know being busy, lack of meetings separate us, but these letters, women being open ARE SO POWERFUL, THEY ARE LIFE, HEALTH, HELP. AND UNDERSTANDING CAN KEEP TALKING TO US WHEN WE AREN'T PRIDEFUL.
I have to say I'M THRILLED THAT YOUR MOM HAS DECIDED TO PUT OFF PRIDE RATHER THAN PUTTING US OFF. She has always lived with the false walls of pride protecting her.... NOT.......... not protecting her. A MIGHTY FORTRESS WAS HER PRIDE.... and I think she is seeing how it's kept her from being who she needs to be TO JESUS AND HIS PEOPLE......GLORY HALLELUJAH!!!!
I'm going to buy that children's book THE EMPEROR WITH NO CLOTHES ON. I think someone had a grip on the religious spirit when they wrote that one!
Hi Ceci,
I just wanted to share somethings that I was talking to one I love about. I was telling her that she needs to start speaking to her farmilar spirit's and start rebuking them and to stop living as the victum and start taking responsibility for what she has sown into her marriage and family. I Got off the phone I started thinking about Linda's advice to me when i see what I have done wrong or the spirit that I allowed to oporate in me, she said repent and ask the Lord to forgive you. I called one I love back and left a message that she should repent and ask for forgiveness when the Lord bring to rememberance that things she has done or the spirit she has allowed to rule in her. After I got off the phone with her I started reading in acts and got a powerful scripture Acts 3:19 Repent ye therfore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
I was just so thankful that the Lord would bring to rememberance that words Linda willingly to give me and then lead me to this scripture!!
I was just thinking to look up the verse in the aramaic...Repent, therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out when the times of tranquillity shall come to you from before the presence of the Lord.
I looked up tranquil: free form agitations of mind or spirit, free from disturbance or turmil.
After reading this in the aramaic, does the second part of the scripture mean that the tranquillity and refreshing will happen as soon as we repent or when we stand before the Lord in heaven? BOTH
Thanks Ceci for your time and love!!!! love you Ellie
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This is really good. Thank you for forwarding it. My silence has cause people to disappear as well. It's strange that I HAVEN'T see that and have been deceived into thinking that I could be satisfied by doing things my own way, walking in the light of my own sparks. I THINK I KNOW. I have been duped and indifferent to life in general. I am so sorry and ashamed that I've been a death trap to my kids and my family. NO MORE, I want to be right with Jesus and man. Thank GOD for this ministry and the light you have chosen to walk in and thank you too!!:) Please forgive me for putting you through it.
I am REALLY thankful to Pat, Alice and Carmie as well for their faithfulness and long suffering where I am concerned. That they would go there even knowing the wrath they would incur by talking to me. OH I'm sorry. I pray for true repentance and brokenness--not just saying I'm sorry to get away from the pressure. A humble and contrite spirit is what I need. Come Lord Jesus!!!!
Love,
Jerrie
WHAT WE SOW, WE REAP
To hate someone is to look down on them, and we shouldn't just decide for someone that they will respond carnally to what we say. Even if they always have in the past, why not go into the battle with "Love Hopes All Things" and have an anointing of love and faith on us rather than fear and unbelief that we won't be heard?
It's the spirit, the anointing that is on us when we go to others that determines how the battle will go.........
This is an addition......... The top of the letter..........
I was thinking about the time I felt the spirit was opening my eyes to "God is not mocked, what a man sows this shall he also reap." It was like I could see for the first time that Michael did not believe that and I should talk to him about it. Well I had to face the truth that, ME, MYSELF, I, did not believe that either, I had never really taken that truth to heart. So when I went to Michael, because I had face the truth ABOUT ME, and had some humility AND FEAR OF THE LORD myself, I could SUBMIT TO HIM IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD when I talked to Him. Looking back on that now I AM SURE THAT IS WHY GOD WENT TO BATTLE FOR ME, because I JUDGED MYSELF first before I went to him, OUT OF LOVE FOR HIS SOUL.
It's easy to play the part of the self-righteous victim, most people do it. Have you seen the movie "Defending Your Life"?
Gene and I were telling some people a varitey of stories the other day where A WRONG WAS STOPPED BY DOING WHAT WAS RIGHT. What a GLORY, WHAT AN HONOR, that we could let some one wrong us. It's the least we can do. WE PUT JESUS ON THE CROSS, and we can barely suffer a wrong, much less LOOK TO HELP COVER a sinner. And by that I mean exactly what I did with Michael, what Gene did with Vicky, we did not look to condemn them BUT HELP THEM GET COVERED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS THROUGH REPENTANCE, so THEY WOULD NOT DIE IN THEIR SIN. It's unconfessed sin we will get judged for. AND IF WE HAVE CONFESSED AND REPENTED, why the heck wouldn't we help someone else???????? IT'S OUR HONOR, IF THEY REJECT AND REFUSE US. At least Michael and Vicky both know SOMEONE LOVED THEIR SOUL ENOUGH TO TRY AND HELP THEM BE CLEAN IN THEIR CONSCIENCE BEFORE GOD. And the filthy of conscience, CANNOT, WILL NOT HELP THEIR HUSBANDS AND CHILDREN HAVE CLEAN CONSCIENCE OR FEAR THE LORD, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHERE THY ARE AT. AND THEY SEE NO HONOR OR GLORY IN LAYING DOWN THEIR LIFE TO HELP SOMEONE ELSE.
That's the point, WHEN THE DEVIL COMES IN LIKE A FLOOD, the Lord wants us to raise a standard up against him, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood. And when we wrestle for the right reason, LOVE, FAITH, to help GOD BE GLORIFIED AND THE DEVIL BE PUT UNDER FOOT,and TO HELP OTHERS STAND, WE BECOME LIKE OUR BROTHER JESUS!!!! WE SUFFER........ AND WE SUFFER WHATEVER WE NEED TO FOR LOVES SAKE, TO HELP, TO HONOR GOD!!!!! WE WHO ARE SPIRITUAL OUGHT TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE WEAK AND NOT TO PLEASE OURSELVES.........GET IT???????? THAT'S THE MESSAGE OF THE GOSPEL, THAT'S THE GOSPEL GENE AND I HAVE BEEN PREACHING ALL ALONG!!!
WE GET OUR HANDS CLEAN, AND HAVE A PURE HEART WHEN WE CARE ABOUT SOMEONE'S SOUL AND LOVE THEM ENOUGH TO GET THE COUNSEL OF GOD FOR THEM, and we are guilty when we don't. And if they refuse the counsel of God in us we can get someone else involved FOR OUT OF THE MOUTH OF 2-3 WITNESSES THE WORD OF GOD IS ESTABLISHED.
It's the spirit, the anointing that is on us when we go to others that determines how the battle will go.........
This is an addition......... The top of the letter..........
I was thinking about the time I felt the spirit was opening my eyes to "God is not mocked, what a man sows this shall he also reap." It was like I could see for the first time that Michael did not believe that and I should talk to him about it. Well I had to face the truth that, ME, MYSELF, I, did not believe that either, I had never really taken that truth to heart. So when I went to Michael, because I had face the truth ABOUT ME, and had some humility AND FEAR OF THE LORD myself, I could SUBMIT TO HIM IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD when I talked to Him. Looking back on that now I AM SURE THAT IS WHY GOD WENT TO BATTLE FOR ME, because I JUDGED MYSELF first before I went to him, OUT OF LOVE FOR HIS SOUL.
It's easy to play the part of the self-righteous victim, most people do it. Have you seen the movie "Defending Your Life"?
Gene and I were telling some people a varitey of stories the other day where A WRONG WAS STOPPED BY DOING WHAT WAS RIGHT. What a GLORY, WHAT AN HONOR, that we could let some one wrong us. It's the least we can do. WE PUT JESUS ON THE CROSS, and we can barely suffer a wrong, much less LOOK TO HELP COVER a sinner. And by that I mean exactly what I did with Michael, what Gene did with Vicky, we did not look to condemn them BUT HELP THEM GET COVERED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS THROUGH REPENTANCE, so THEY WOULD NOT DIE IN THEIR SIN. It's unconfessed sin we will get judged for. AND IF WE HAVE CONFESSED AND REPENTED, why the heck wouldn't we help someone else???????? IT'S OUR HONOR, IF THEY REJECT AND REFUSE US. At least Michael and Vicky both know SOMEONE LOVED THEIR SOUL ENOUGH TO TRY AND HELP THEM BE CLEAN IN THEIR CONSCIENCE BEFORE GOD. And the filthy of conscience, CANNOT, WILL NOT HELP THEIR HUSBANDS AND CHILDREN HAVE CLEAN CONSCIENCE OR FEAR THE LORD, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHERE THY ARE AT. AND THEY SEE NO HONOR OR GLORY IN LAYING DOWN THEIR LIFE TO HELP SOMEONE ELSE.
That's the point, WHEN THE DEVIL COMES IN LIKE A FLOOD, the Lord wants us to raise a standard up against him, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood. And when we wrestle for the right reason, LOVE, FAITH, to help GOD BE GLORIFIED AND THE DEVIL BE PUT UNDER FOOT,and TO HELP OTHERS STAND, WE BECOME LIKE OUR BROTHER JESUS!!!! WE SUFFER........ AND WE SUFFER WHATEVER WE NEED TO FOR LOVES SAKE, TO HELP, TO HONOR GOD!!!!! WE WHO ARE SPIRITUAL OUGHT TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE WEAK AND NOT TO PLEASE OURSELVES.........GET IT???????? THAT'S THE MESSAGE OF THE GOSPEL, THAT'S THE GOSPEL GENE AND I HAVE BEEN PREACHING ALL ALONG!!!
WE GET OUR HANDS CLEAN, AND HAVE A PURE HEART WHEN WE CARE ABOUT SOMEONE'S SOUL AND LOVE THEM ENOUGH TO GET THE COUNSEL OF GOD FOR THEM, and we are guilty when we don't. And if they refuse the counsel of God in us we can get someone else involved FOR OUT OF THE MOUTH OF 2-3 WITNESSES THE WORD OF GOD IS ESTABLISHED.
WOMEN WHO USE A VAGABOND SPIRIT
Subject: women who use a vagabond spirit to get their needs met
I went to this African Christian's web page. They sell a bunch of articles there. "the bones in your grandfathers cupboards", why Christians don't get delivered, SPIRITUAL VAGABONDS. What came to me is people are spiritual vagabonds for a reason. There is a payoff. They have counted the cost, and the price they pay to be a vagabond IS WORTH THE REWARD they think they will get.
Kind of like Beach Bum. (as one woman put it) Or a humping dog as another woman put it, or a suckey flattering taker. Hell and destruction are never full, so a vagabond never has enough. I saw a true story movie of a woman (got a paycheck of $16,000 a month, and it still wasn't enough for her.) Control, vengeance, self pity, made her totally unable to be THANKFUL FOR ALL SHE HAD, so she killed her x huband and new wife. And felt good about it and justified. She was a true spiritual vagabond.
I can relate to the vagabond, stealing, taking, no integrity, curse of waiting for some man to come save me. It was a suckey life and I had to COUNT THE COST, consider my ways, and realize I didn't want the wages that belong to vagabonds. God opened my eyes to see the cost was too high for me to live like that and put that spirit on my children.
Vagabonds are cannibals, they only take life, they don't give it. And they consider not what they do to others.
I was talking to my husband about a woman who's child died, and I told him, if I was her, I would tell the Lord this. Lord, I was a selfish, dead in my conscience woman, a taker, user, who let demons rule me. IT'S MY FAULT MY CHILD DIED, I don't deserve any of my children.
I had to be washed from my sin, by Jesus..... I faced my sin, didn't offer my blood to cover it. Told the Lord me and my children deserved whatever evil befell us. AND HE SAVED ME AND MY CHILDREN, washed me, cleaned my evil conscience.
She who covers her sin, will not prosper. She who says SHE HAS NO SIN, HER SIN WILL ALWAYS REMAIN WITH HER. She will live and die unwashed. Or try and sacrifice her blood........ self righteousness is truly wicked. It keeps us from God and man.
It's sad to see women use a vagabond spirit to get their needs met, they live a life of shame and sorrow, just as the devil intended for them. But the cost of fighting the good fight of faith, taking hold of eternal life, casting down principalities and powers, EXERCISING THEIR SENSES IS TOO HIGH. And until the cost is too high NOT TO, THEY WON'T TURN AROUND, CHANGE, REPENT!
Women who have more faith to be A BAD SEED, faith in the devil, they will get life according to their faith!
Subject: : needy, idoalatrous men and women who are life takers............ I'm going to work on this some more
When I met Gene, I had been married to a murderer and rapist who loved to be ministered to by WOMEN in the church.....and they likewise loved to MINISTER to men. I had become familiar, and my own father Ministered to women ALONE, apart from the husband, or anyone else. I never even considered what Jesus said......(they went out 2 by 2).
I have learned much through my own sufferings. I was a "spiritual" fornicator with men in the church myself. I drew comfort from them, they drew comfort from their "list" of women.
I think it goes on all the time, and I have had people say the church has become a better pick up joint than a bar.
I had 3 men in my life when I met Gene......... all Christians, that had little to no relationships in honesty, sincerity, and truth with MEN, but drew comfort from ministering to women. It was nothing less than spiritual fornication. I realized that the "walls" of truth around me had fallen down. I had no RIGHT STANDARD of healthy relationships or how they looked with men or women. But when I saw "living" epistles, men who talked about pride, lying, lust, covetousness, who had open honest sincere relationships with each other, I realized how "off" I was. I had only seen men "taking" from women, (in the light of ministering to them), and women really in the same boat. It looked good on the outside, but few of these people had ordered relationships in the body of Christ. Seems like there are tons of these kind of men around, the sad part is most of them are content to be like they are and don't even have a clue how sick in their soul they are!
Gene never met with women alone. He didn't have a women's ministry, and he only ministered to women WITH their husbands or WITH other people. He had a right spirit with the Lord and he didn't NEED women and their acceptance for his own pride or ego or spiritual comfort. I had been around so many men with vexed consciences who went to church, but weren't led by the Spirit, and deep down were insecure, so they "took" comfort from women and children, in the guise of being a spiritual "giver". I approached the men in my life, told them the truth about what God was opening my eyes to, but none of them wanted to give up their list of women they ministered to. I only was able to see what was really "sick" by viewing what was healthy. I realized the man I was with HAD NO, NOR HAD HE EVER HAD, honest, open, sincere relationships with men. His brother was even in the business of treating sexual offenders and he never talked to him. This helped him be open prey to the devil.......... HE NEEDED WOMEN to comfort him, USED them, and HATED (lightly esteemed them) due to his sick need, and unclean conscience towards God.
So the story goes............ I have seen it now for years, even in Pastor's all over the country, who deep down inside are insecure, don't have men they speak the truth in love to believing they are members of each other, AND TAKE COMFORT FROM WOMEN AND CHILDREN, to meet their need, due to their vexed or empty souls regarding God and other men. Some of these men I have seen get married, but lay a burden on their wives to COMFORT their vexed soul. And they have a "list" of other women, or children in some cases they minister to OUT OF THEIR NEED, DECEIVING THEMSELVES. They are really TAKING under the delusion of GIVING! And when their wives are either spiritual whores, or physical whores they don't have a clue how it happened to them???????? They end up with conscience vexing, spirit grieving, Holy Ghost denying women, but don't even understand how they have reaped what they have sown. They don't even look at their UNNATURAL submission to women, they seem caring, kind on the outside, but when women don't give them what they want the ravenous wolf appears.
The only way out of this trap for men, IS TO HAVE HEALTHY HONEST, OPEN SINCERE RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEN OF GOD! And women are in the same boat. To be a GIVER in a marriage you can't just look to your spouse, we are supposed to be INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF A BODY!!!!! Is. says NOT TO HIDE OURSELVES FROM OUR OWN FLESH! BUT INDIVIDUAL'S DO AND COUPLES DO TOO, AND THEY NEVER FULFILL GOD'S WILL IN EACH OTHER'S LIFE OR THE BODY OF CHRIST'S life!!!! They don't see themselves as a vital organ in a GREATER WHOLE body!
What I've told my own daughter's is to be very discerning towards how a man REALLY RELATES to the men in his life. Does he have men that give him wisdom, understanding and knowledge to the sins that so easily beset him? If they don't have healthy relationships with other men, stay away from them, they won't have a healthy relationship with you either. If they can't have a clean conscience with God and other men, they won't have a clean conscience with you either!!! Also, if you learn to have a clean conscience with women, and God................ you'll do much better with having a clean conscience with a man! I have known so many "married" women that have vexed consciences with God and other women, who live in lust and fantasy, and every chance they get they "TAKE COMFORT" from any man they can emotionally, spiritually, or in their vain imaginations. These people live "captive by the cords of their own sin", and wonder why the end up with someone with a big log in their eye, who is always using the opposite sex TO TAKE COMFORT FROM! It's all life in the land of taking, stealing, not in God's Kingdom!
This is all I have time to write about right now............ talk to you soon, Ceci
I think your letter is just great ........ and there are some
among us who have never seen the lives they have shipwrecked. I think that's
why God has brought this man around, so these women can take a look at what they
have failed to all these years and give a clear sound.
One of the things I talked to my kids about all along was my hypocrisy
in NOT REALLY CARING FIRST AND FOREMOST ABOUT PLEASING GOD, and picking
men just like me, who really live to PLEASE THEMSELVES. I cried aloud and
spared not, and some of my kids, heard the Lords voice.
Our suffering with the opposite sex has profited us nothing if we
didn't see the operation of God, in tearing us down for seeking our own will not
His.
I talked to that lady again about being self serving throughout
the relationship. I must say that she sheds tears over the thought of
shipwrecking your faith, and I think has deep regret over being a
carnal woman to you....... she has been really broken, and was again today.
I'm not sure I have seen much godly sorrow in the other women and maybe
that's why the blood doesn't cleanse their conscience, due to the fact that
their repentance is self seeking, rather than how they have affected God and
His people first and foremost besides sowing to their own destruction.
Here's another letter to the lady in Id. that met J in a Christian
chat room, and has come to see him 2 times in the name of "checking out
Billings".
Hey S,
The first time we met I knew, (others did too) that you were here to
check out J. The reasoning of your mind sounded good........ but IN YOUR
HEART, you were here because of J, not Billings. I think that was true the
2nd time around too!
Our heart doesn't match our head......... we tell Jesus what sounds
good too, we don't tell him the truth........... that's why so many women
can be deceived by men. They have already deceived themselves. I did the
same thing with a man many years ago. I knew who he really was on the
inside too........ (committed to no one really but himself), but I was looking
at him to as means to an end, (committed really only to myself too. What was really crazy is I knew 2 of his
last 6 wives.......... wow.......... I cried out to God to save me from
myself. To help me deal with the inside of me so I would no longer just be judging
men by the seeing of the eye and the hearing of the ear........ but I
wanted Him to open my eyes so I could see the ingredients on the inside of the
package. I couldn't see, because I wouldn't deal with what was going on in the
inside of me. Until I was willing to go there.......... I was lost and
blind....... I was in idolatry with "Christian" men, who were in
"idolatry" with Christian women......
I don't even know if this makes sense to you, but until I faced the
fact that I didn't LIVE AND BREATH TO PLEASE GOD.......... I only knew men
who were willing to please themselves. Christian men who were as
unconverted as I was. Men who weren't led by the spirit and I didn't realize that I
wasn't led by the spirit either. If I couldn't have a man that lived to
please God above himself I didn't want one. Most men are flesh gratifiers over
obeying Jesus!
I'm talking right now with a woman who dated J....... she's telling
me how needy he was, due to his lack of Jesus....... They argued all the
time, their EMPTINESS caused a constant clash. He lived in fear financially
and with women THAT HE WOULDN'T GET HIS NEEDS MET, and THAT'S WHERE SHE WAS
AT TOO........ really. That's what was on the inside of the cup.........
under all the Christian polish. She soon realized it was a mistake
and bailed out. She knew life with him would be a life of contention and strife.
Funny how he can see the sin of the females in all his past relationships
but he has no clue as to why he was so blinded by the women that came
his way. His own self deception will be his continual sorrows with the
women in his future too. "The things my soul refused touch have become my
sorrowful meat."
You can write her if you want, her name is Alice. She's been tempted
with a few men like Jim, but hasn't gone the distance. She knows to much what
the end of the road looks like!
Talk to you soon.
Hi Sheryl, We were having a women's mtg just this am. One of the women here got
a scripture due to her always looking to men really for her help and
she's lived life under a curse. "to deliver you from the strange women who
flatters with her mouth". She has been one of those women men need to
be delivered from. She flatters men, and it's always brought her
destruction. And she "receives" men who are only flattering her. life
suckers, life takers. It's so easy for women to close their eyes, deceive
themselves BECAUSE THEY ARE HUNGRY. They consume men upon their
appetites, and find men who do the same.......... ALL IN THE NAME OF JESUS. No
REAL TRUST AND FAITH THAT GOD WILL BRING THEM WHAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED
IT.
She has never really looked to do GOD'S WILL in men's lives, and she
gets men who talk Jesus but IT'S NOT REALLY THEIR FOOD TO DO GOD'S WILL.
It was great because a man came in the room and talked about the
scripture "to the hungry soul, every bitter thing is sweet." He talked about
how he engaged women, flattery, taking emotional, spiritual comfort from
them....... looking to be emotionally, intimate, WITHOUT COMMITMENT.
He had NO intention of being committed, and he was a SPIRITUAL
FORNICATOR. (intimacy without COMMITMENT). That's what that means.
This is where many men have bailed out of our ministry. They don't
want to look at how they really engage women or WHY. They really have vexed
consciences, because they aren't led by God's spirit BUT BY THEIR NEED.
They lead women astray....... (making them think one thing, but using them
for another.) Even if it's just for an emotional fix. Then they give
them gifts to pay them off for using them........... even if the usury has
just been emotional not physical. Or to be "spiritually intimate". We
have seen dozens of men use JESUS AND MINISTRY to TAKE COMFORT FROM WOMEN.
Even thou there is no sex....... it's a wrong spirit and always leads to destruction.
Married men do it too............. I just hope you learn from your
sorrows with J, because I don't think he is really looking at why and how
he engages women, nor does he really care what it's doing to them. I think
the Lord will have a big issue with him one day about it too, because
he sent messengers to Jim, and he refused them.
Oh well........... enough said. Some people will never look at what
they sow, what they reap or why they have reaped it.
Christians are going around this mountain over and over again.......
they live like victims, not knowing why they keep reaping UNFAITHFUL men...
men of no commitment, because they are really on the hunt for food, they
don't have faith God will really feed them. They stay in miserable wrong
spirited relationships too, never getting understanding, living like a
victim, full of self pity.
She's been trying to cook, clean, and offer her flesh, but she hasn't
cared about being a woman of God, getting her food from afar. She lives to
get and protect herself, not TO DO GOD'S WILL. Do all the works, live to
get your needs met with men, all in the name of Jesus she did it.......
her and hundreds of others I have met over the years. They are spiritual
fornicators.......... and get spiritual fornicators, men full of fear,
pity, covetousness, et. Love, Ceci
I went to this African Christian's web page. They sell a bunch of articles there. "the bones in your grandfathers cupboards", why Christians don't get delivered, SPIRITUAL VAGABONDS. What came to me is people are spiritual vagabonds for a reason. There is a payoff. They have counted the cost, and the price they pay to be a vagabond IS WORTH THE REWARD they think they will get.
Kind of like Beach Bum. (as one woman put it) Or a humping dog as another woman put it, or a suckey flattering taker. Hell and destruction are never full, so a vagabond never has enough. I saw a true story movie of a woman (got a paycheck of $16,000 a month, and it still wasn't enough for her.) Control, vengeance, self pity, made her totally unable to be THANKFUL FOR ALL SHE HAD, so she killed her x huband and new wife. And felt good about it and justified. She was a true spiritual vagabond.
I can relate to the vagabond, stealing, taking, no integrity, curse of waiting for some man to come save me. It was a suckey life and I had to COUNT THE COST, consider my ways, and realize I didn't want the wages that belong to vagabonds. God opened my eyes to see the cost was too high for me to live like that and put that spirit on my children.
Vagabonds are cannibals, they only take life, they don't give it. And they consider not what they do to others.
I was talking to my husband about a woman who's child died, and I told him, if I was her, I would tell the Lord this. Lord, I was a selfish, dead in my conscience woman, a taker, user, who let demons rule me. IT'S MY FAULT MY CHILD DIED, I don't deserve any of my children.
I had to be washed from my sin, by Jesus..... I faced my sin, didn't offer my blood to cover it. Told the Lord me and my children deserved whatever evil befell us. AND HE SAVED ME AND MY CHILDREN, washed me, cleaned my evil conscience.
She who covers her sin, will not prosper. She who says SHE HAS NO SIN, HER SIN WILL ALWAYS REMAIN WITH HER. She will live and die unwashed. Or try and sacrifice her blood........ self righteousness is truly wicked. It keeps us from God and man.
It's sad to see women use a vagabond spirit to get their needs met, they live a life of shame and sorrow, just as the devil intended for them. But the cost of fighting the good fight of faith, taking hold of eternal life, casting down principalities and powers, EXERCISING THEIR SENSES IS TOO HIGH. And until the cost is too high NOT TO, THEY WON'T TURN AROUND, CHANGE, REPENT!
Women who have more faith to be A BAD SEED, faith in the devil, they will get life according to their faith!
Subject: : needy, idoalatrous men and women who are life takers............ I'm going to work on this some more
When I met Gene, I had been married to a murderer and rapist who loved to be ministered to by WOMEN in the church.....and they likewise loved to MINISTER to men. I had become familiar, and my own father Ministered to women ALONE, apart from the husband, or anyone else. I never even considered what Jesus said......(they went out 2 by 2).
I have learned much through my own sufferings. I was a "spiritual" fornicator with men in the church myself. I drew comfort from them, they drew comfort from their "list" of women.
I think it goes on all the time, and I have had people say the church has become a better pick up joint than a bar.
I had 3 men in my life when I met Gene......... all Christians, that had little to no relationships in honesty, sincerity, and truth with MEN, but drew comfort from ministering to women. It was nothing less than spiritual fornication. I realized that the "walls" of truth around me had fallen down. I had no RIGHT STANDARD of healthy relationships or how they looked with men or women. But when I saw "living" epistles, men who talked about pride, lying, lust, covetousness, who had open honest sincere relationships with each other, I realized how "off" I was. I had only seen men "taking" from women, (in the light of ministering to them), and women really in the same boat. It looked good on the outside, but few of these people had ordered relationships in the body of Christ. Seems like there are tons of these kind of men around, the sad part is most of them are content to be like they are and don't even have a clue how sick in their soul they are!
Gene never met with women alone. He didn't have a women's ministry, and he only ministered to women WITH their husbands or WITH other people. He had a right spirit with the Lord and he didn't NEED women and their acceptance for his own pride or ego or spiritual comfort. I had been around so many men with vexed consciences who went to church, but weren't led by the Spirit, and deep down were insecure, so they "took" comfort from women and children, in the guise of being a spiritual "giver". I approached the men in my life, told them the truth about what God was opening my eyes to, but none of them wanted to give up their list of women they ministered to. I only was able to see what was really "sick" by viewing what was healthy. I realized the man I was with HAD NO, NOR HAD HE EVER HAD, honest, open, sincere relationships with men. His brother was even in the business of treating sexual offenders and he never talked to him. This helped him be open prey to the devil.......... HE NEEDED WOMEN to comfort him, USED them, and HATED (lightly esteemed them) due to his sick need, and unclean conscience towards God.
So the story goes............ I have seen it now for years, even in Pastor's all over the country, who deep down inside are insecure, don't have men they speak the truth in love to believing they are members of each other, AND TAKE COMFORT FROM WOMEN AND CHILDREN, to meet their need, due to their vexed or empty souls regarding God and other men. Some of these men I have seen get married, but lay a burden on their wives to COMFORT their vexed soul. And they have a "list" of other women, or children in some cases they minister to OUT OF THEIR NEED, DECEIVING THEMSELVES. They are really TAKING under the delusion of GIVING! And when their wives are either spiritual whores, or physical whores they don't have a clue how it happened to them???????? They end up with conscience vexing, spirit grieving, Holy Ghost denying women, but don't even understand how they have reaped what they have sown. They don't even look at their UNNATURAL submission to women, they seem caring, kind on the outside, but when women don't give them what they want the ravenous wolf appears.
The only way out of this trap for men, IS TO HAVE HEALTHY HONEST, OPEN SINCERE RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEN OF GOD! And women are in the same boat. To be a GIVER in a marriage you can't just look to your spouse, we are supposed to be INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF A BODY!!!!! Is. says NOT TO HIDE OURSELVES FROM OUR OWN FLESH! BUT INDIVIDUAL'S DO AND COUPLES DO TOO, AND THEY NEVER FULFILL GOD'S WILL IN EACH OTHER'S LIFE OR THE BODY OF CHRIST'S life!!!! They don't see themselves as a vital organ in a GREATER WHOLE body!
What I've told my own daughter's is to be very discerning towards how a man REALLY RELATES to the men in his life. Does he have men that give him wisdom, understanding and knowledge to the sins that so easily beset him? If they don't have healthy relationships with other men, stay away from them, they won't have a healthy relationship with you either. If they can't have a clean conscience with God and other men, they won't have a clean conscience with you either!!! Also, if you learn to have a clean conscience with women, and God................ you'll do much better with having a clean conscience with a man! I have known so many "married" women that have vexed consciences with God and other women, who live in lust and fantasy, and every chance they get they "TAKE COMFORT" from any man they can emotionally, spiritually, or in their vain imaginations. These people live "captive by the cords of their own sin", and wonder why the end up with someone with a big log in their eye, who is always using the opposite sex TO TAKE COMFORT FROM! It's all life in the land of taking, stealing, not in God's Kingdom!
This is all I have time to write about right now............ talk to you soon, Ceci
I think your letter is just great ........ and there are some
among us who have never seen the lives they have shipwrecked. I think that's
why God has brought this man around, so these women can take a look at what they
have failed to all these years and give a clear sound.
One of the things I talked to my kids about all along was my hypocrisy
in NOT REALLY CARING FIRST AND FOREMOST ABOUT PLEASING GOD, and picking
men just like me, who really live to PLEASE THEMSELVES. I cried aloud and
spared not, and some of my kids, heard the Lords voice.
Our suffering with the opposite sex has profited us nothing if we
didn't see the operation of God, in tearing us down for seeking our own will not
His.
I talked to that lady again about being self serving throughout
the relationship. I must say that she sheds tears over the thought of
shipwrecking your faith, and I think has deep regret over being a
carnal woman to you....... she has been really broken, and was again today.
I'm not sure I have seen much godly sorrow in the other women and maybe
that's why the blood doesn't cleanse their conscience, due to the fact that
their repentance is self seeking, rather than how they have affected God and
His people first and foremost besides sowing to their own destruction.
Here's another letter to the lady in Id. that met J in a Christian
chat room, and has come to see him 2 times in the name of "checking out
Billings".
Hey S,
The first time we met I knew, (others did too) that you were here to
check out J. The reasoning of your mind sounded good........ but IN YOUR
HEART, you were here because of J, not Billings. I think that was true the
2nd time around too!
Our heart doesn't match our head......... we tell Jesus what sounds
good too, we don't tell him the truth........... that's why so many women
can be deceived by men. They have already deceived themselves. I did the
same thing with a man many years ago. I knew who he really was on the
inside too........ (committed to no one really but himself), but I was looking
at him to as means to an end, (committed really only to myself too. What was really crazy is I knew 2 of his
last 6 wives.......... wow.......... I cried out to God to save me from
myself. To help me deal with the inside of me so I would no longer just be judging
men by the seeing of the eye and the hearing of the ear........ but I
wanted Him to open my eyes so I could see the ingredients on the inside of the
package. I couldn't see, because I wouldn't deal with what was going on in the
inside of me. Until I was willing to go there.......... I was lost and
blind....... I was in idolatry with "Christian" men, who were in
"idolatry" with Christian women......
I don't even know if this makes sense to you, but until I faced the
fact that I didn't LIVE AND BREATH TO PLEASE GOD.......... I only knew men
who were willing to please themselves. Christian men who were as
unconverted as I was. Men who weren't led by the spirit and I didn't realize that I
wasn't led by the spirit either. If I couldn't have a man that lived to
please God above himself I didn't want one. Most men are flesh gratifiers over
obeying Jesus!
I'm talking right now with a woman who dated J....... she's telling
me how needy he was, due to his lack of Jesus....... They argued all the
time, their EMPTINESS caused a constant clash. He lived in fear financially
and with women THAT HE WOULDN'T GET HIS NEEDS MET, and THAT'S WHERE SHE WAS
AT TOO........ really. That's what was on the inside of the cup.........
under all the Christian polish. She soon realized it was a mistake
and bailed out. She knew life with him would be a life of contention and strife.
Funny how he can see the sin of the females in all his past relationships
but he has no clue as to why he was so blinded by the women that came
his way. His own self deception will be his continual sorrows with the
women in his future too. "The things my soul refused touch have become my
sorrowful meat."
You can write her if you want, her name is Alice. She's been tempted
with a few men like Jim, but hasn't gone the distance. She knows to much what
the end of the road looks like!
Talk to you soon.
Hi Sheryl, We were having a women's mtg just this am. One of the women here got
a scripture due to her always looking to men really for her help and
she's lived life under a curse. "to deliver you from the strange women who
flatters with her mouth". She has been one of those women men need to
be delivered from. She flatters men, and it's always brought her
destruction. And she "receives" men who are only flattering her. life
suckers, life takers. It's so easy for women to close their eyes, deceive
themselves BECAUSE THEY ARE HUNGRY. They consume men upon their
appetites, and find men who do the same.......... ALL IN THE NAME OF JESUS. No
REAL TRUST AND FAITH THAT GOD WILL BRING THEM WHAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED
IT.
She has never really looked to do GOD'S WILL in men's lives, and she
gets men who talk Jesus but IT'S NOT REALLY THEIR FOOD TO DO GOD'S WILL.
It was great because a man came in the room and talked about the
scripture "to the hungry soul, every bitter thing is sweet." He talked about
how he engaged women, flattery, taking emotional, spiritual comfort from
them....... looking to be emotionally, intimate, WITHOUT COMMITMENT.
He had NO intention of being committed, and he was a SPIRITUAL
FORNICATOR. (intimacy without COMMITMENT). That's what that means.
This is where many men have bailed out of our ministry. They don't
want to look at how they really engage women or WHY. They really have vexed
consciences, because they aren't led by God's spirit BUT BY THEIR NEED.
They lead women astray....... (making them think one thing, but using them
for another.) Even if it's just for an emotional fix. Then they give
them gifts to pay them off for using them........... even if the usury has
just been emotional not physical. Or to be "spiritually intimate". We
have seen dozens of men use JESUS AND MINISTRY to TAKE COMFORT FROM WOMEN.
Even thou there is no sex....... it's a wrong spirit and always leads to destruction.
Married men do it too............. I just hope you learn from your
sorrows with J, because I don't think he is really looking at why and how
he engages women, nor does he really care what it's doing to them. I think
the Lord will have a big issue with him one day about it too, because
he sent messengers to Jim, and he refused them.
Oh well........... enough said. Some people will never look at what
they sow, what they reap or why they have reaped it.
Christians are going around this mountain over and over again.......
they live like victims, not knowing why they keep reaping UNFAITHFUL men...
men of no commitment, because they are really on the hunt for food, they
don't have faith God will really feed them. They stay in miserable wrong
spirited relationships too, never getting understanding, living like a
victim, full of self pity.
She's been trying to cook, clean, and offer her flesh, but she hasn't
cared about being a woman of God, getting her food from afar. She lives to
get and protect herself, not TO DO GOD'S WILL. Do all the works, live to
get your needs met with men, all in the name of Jesus she did it.......
her and hundreds of others I have met over the years. They are spiritual
fornicators.......... and get spiritual fornicators, men full of fear,
pity, covetousness, et. Love, Ceci
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